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By Rob - Posted on 02 July 2007

Hi all... please post your reports from the recent Coffs thingo (race) here. No DH talk, we'll do that some place else Sticking out tongue

GAZZA's picture

Speaking for myself, it was a bloody hard 95km. I think all of us found it pretty hard due to the crap weather and little riding we've all done. I was told it was gonna be a massive bog up there but was pleasently suprised to find great weather and a fairly dry course with some sticky bits but nothing too harsh. The second half of the course was the most gruesome with some mega steep climbs that were hard to walk never mind ride! Especially after steve and myself spent the day before pushing our 20kg downhill bikes up the steepest firetrail ive ever seen for about an hour and a half... Not a good warm up for the day after. Only to find that when we got to the top there was a road on the other side! Another hour and a half later we'd rode back down and driven round the other side of the mountain to meet the others to have a mess around on the fantastic downhill course. Rob got some great photos so im sure he'll post them. All in all a great weekend and thanks to everyone who was there. Well done and look forward to the next one. Id write in more detail but thanks to bigpond and 12 hours on the phone and my 4th modem that isnt working im still not on the net so am once again doing this from my phone. If anyone can help me with a good net company let me know.

Rob's picture

Well, what a weekend. Fantastic. I loved it.

The 5am start Sat, the 7 hour drive to Coffs, the hour or so at Mount Coramba Sat arvo (there will be more talk of that elsewhere I'm sure), dinner that eve, and then... race day.

Awake at 5am (again!) for the 7:45 start. Too early, but at least felt rested. Oh dear, and then the stomach decided it didn't want to play nice today. Forced some bread & peanut butter down, banana, apple, muesli bar, 'V' drink. Visited the little room a few times.

Drove to race, feeling decidedly dodgy and grimacing at the other guys trying to get me to smile for pics. Heard a delay, then another. Visited the red & white trailer (loos) a few too many times. Maybe nerves? Not sure that everything is well here, but eventually the feeling subsided and what with the delays and that out of the way the race started quiet nicely.

Loved the ride to the first water station. Was with Shano most of this, just couldn't stop babbling about the track, how nice, what a job the CHCC guys must have planning all this, blah, blah, blah. Got to the first station around 21Ks in 1h40-ish. Call it a 90K race, should be done in 7-8h... all good.

Shano & I ate a drank little, Nigel steamed through on his way to a 4th in the half marathon (nice one!). Evan & Caro showed up and we left together (after about 25 min break). Again Shano and I found ourselves away, but I was getting confused. We'd climbed a lot more than we should have done (going on the 1440m advertised) and kept seeing 50K riders. Where was the turn off? Had we/they missed it?

Eventually we came to the 50/100 split stop around 38Ks. Got off the bike. Felt a little light headed. Oh dear. Had eaten and drunk plenty (no, really, really had - trips into the bushed confirmed this) but history has taught us (me) that it would not be smart to push on with 100Ks not feeling 100% here. Waited for the other guys to show and Caro to head off up the hill, and them to confirm their plans before breaking the news to Evan and Shano that I was feeling iffy and would just finish the 50. Pretty disappointed to be honest, but didn't want to risk anything. Watched them cycle off feeling that I'd done the right thing, no matter how much of a failure it would make me feel/look.

Stood here for quiet some time (around 45mins?) and saw many people come and go. Several came and talked of the 100 before turning right (the 50). One couple showed up and debated the choice before riding off on the longer route after the bloke was persuaded to by his girlie companion. Back they came 5 mins later, the girl quipped, "One look at that hill...". And here was I telling everyone that half the climbing was done (think the GPS said over 700m climbed in the first 38-ish). Sorry folks!

Craig and Tien both came by and as I didn't want a sprint finish (and Craig didn't want to stop anyhow!) let them go. Julian showed up looking pretty beat so rode to the finish with him at a nice slow pace.

Few of the pro guys passed us, couple gave comments like, "Well done guys" and, "Nice one - keep it up", but somehow this came over as sarcasm as they were steaming in on the 100K course. Haven't seen them on the road before and this left a bad image of the elite guys. One elite chick came by, nice and polite asked how far to go, why can't there be more like her?

Julian and I eventually came in to applause from the other guys - not at all deserved in my case and I hung my head and trundled over the line before pottering round to see them. Sat and chatted and watched and waited for the other guys. Nice, as I'm normally near the back and miss all this.

Time was ticking by and the faster mobbers were still missing. Oh dear, what's the go? Then in they came, talking of hideous hills and torture. Eh? As it turns out, the 1440m advertised was more like 2050m, and had a lot of hike-a-bike. When guys like these complain I didn't feel quiet so bad at bailing. Sadly Caro, Bruce Shano and Even all got 'sweeped' (mainly due to the 45 min race delay I should add) so again, this helped me (but certainly not them) feel a bit... well... a bit like if I didn't feel like riding what I thought would be an easy second half it was very lucky I didn't attempt what was an absolute killer of one!

So, bitter/sweet I guess. Profile is here for the 50 I did:

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/3186606

Dinner that evening was fun, stories in the cabin later better. All in all a top trip, loved it!

Stuart M's picture

My ramblings are here http://nobmob.com/node/2303 in my blog if anyone is interested in tales from the rear.

Bruce's picture

Hey Rob, you still recovering? I never got swept although I wish I had been Smiling

All in all the hardest day on the bike ever, the guys up in coffs have built some of the sweetest trail I have seen. I think if I take on this challenge again there will be some serious training going on first.

Congratulations to all that took part, we all pushed ourselves to new limits on this one.

Thanks for the great weekend.

PS just checked the times 6hrs42min Smiling geez it felt longer!

alchemist's picture

I heard the course was tough. Results are here http://www.cyclingnews.com/mtb/?id=2007/jul07/co...

Little-Ditty's picture

Time for my 50km:

3:16.00 approx

20th out of 48 starters.

Blahh!

Rob's picture

Actually, I've been feeling crook for quiet a while now, it's like a constant drain. There's various speculation in the car on the way home on my ailment, but you don't want to know... will go and ask a professional! Eye-wink

christine's picture

Well, I had THE BEST weekend! Such a ball and the ride was fantastic!
Really pretty lot so of nice single track and just excellent – everyone should go next year...I thoroughly enjoyed getting there early and being there when all our hundred riders went out and just loved riding the fifty...I much preferred it to the half a fling...
Sensational weekend thank you – great company in the car, at the house and for dinner on the Saturday night
Thank you everyone – oh! and how good was it to ride in and there were all the NobMobbers waiting by the finishing line – I just grinned! Too happy!
Thank you Stuart for driving and avoiding the accident on the way home with the semi – brilliant defensive driving and thank you for being a great riding partner on the track!

MEEEE Smiling

evan's picture

Once again an awesome NobMob weekend.

Big congrats to all those that participated.
My hat off to Rob for pulling the pin and looking after your health.

Quick change to Rob's comment, it was Caro, Shano and myself that got swept.
The course I found out from one of the sweepers, was mapped on a trail bike....hmmmmmmm. It was interestinf seeing the trails bikes having problems on some of the course as they took off.

Will I do it next year........ you bet Smiling

Evan

leximack's picture

how does the sweeping work? i assume you get to a certain checkpoint and you havent made it there in time you cant go on, how do you get back?, are you directed via a shorter route?
Just curious
Was the cutoff unreasonable, seem to be alot of DNF's

Rob's picture

I think the cutoff was 3:30pm at 70Ks? Due to them thinking people wouldn't get back after there in the light.

This was a problem due to the late start so instead of the slowest time possible being maybe 9 hours, it was more like 8 (wasn't the last competitor home around then?). For a recreational rider, wanting to take their time and have a nice day, this would have been rather annoying.

evan's picture

Rob you were correct, the cut off was you had to be at the last checkpoint before 3:30pm.

Sweeping, basically a couple of guys on trail bikes worked there way around the course. When they found you they radioed your position in and you are then picked up and taken back to the finish.

Evan

leximack's picture

i guess they dont want people finishing in the dark.
Would be quite annoying though if you only didnt make the cutoff because the race was started late

Stuart M's picture

I know we can't play God and stop the sun from setting and they are only trying to look after peoples safety but man to have been that close on such a difficult track must have been shattering.

I know I certainly would not have come in as positive as Carolin. My hat goes off to you for this alone, not to mention your ability on a bike that never ceases to impress. Maybe next year we all carry our lights just in case. They can't stop people riding trails after dark then can they.

Well done

Rob's picture

Quotes from the MTB-OZ mailing list (where the serious guys hang out). Note the times some of these guys are talking of - if riders capable of these found it hard, anyone who finished can feel proud:

I think they forgot to convert inches to centemeters when calculating the altitude for the course...

...[ anonymous ] got the easy run bailing at the 50km's. From there on, just about every climb was a walk. In fact think of near vertical walls, then coat them liberally with mud, and you might get some way to describing the majority of the climbs...

... all up, about 93km's, 2055m's of vertical (as opposed to the 1400 they advertised), and I finished in about 5:30 ish...

Someone saw a one legged rider? He wrote:

I had the fun of riding about 10km back to the car with one leg, thanks to a snapped axle on my right Eggbeater a bit before the 50km course diversion. It was a nice clean snap, between the bearings, and no doubt due to the awesome power in my legs </tic>...

...It wasn't too bad, although I had to go down to 29/34 to get up some of the hills, riding one legged is more than twice as hard as riding with 2, that's for sure...

</tic> == Tongue in Cheek

If that's a "short and flat" course... I'd hate to see a long hilly one...

finish ... in about 5:15...

Some of you will notice that's a bit slower than the 4:30 I was hoping for. This course was BRUTAL...

It was all good up until this point. The third quarter, however, was hell. Moto track sniggle going straight up and down gullies. Over and over again. The climbs were steep enough, and slippery enough, that getting harnessed and roped up to do them wasn't out of the question...

Boy was I glad that was over. Apparently the 1400m of climbing turned out to be 2050m...

leximack's picture

how could they get the vertical climbing so wrong, atleast if they say upfront its 2000m then there is no surprises and you can attack the course differently.
Sounds like it was a tough course

alchemist's picture
Quotes from the MTB-OZ mailing list (where the serious guys hang out)

I've just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard reading that, serious and mtb-oz don't often get mentioned in the same sentence; even on mtb-oz-serious. Eye-wink See you at Tony's BBQ on the weekend?

petulance's picture

to check the level of the creek crossing before heading over?

Eye-wink

Rob's picture

Hey... don't you lot start that up here! Sticking out tongue

Steve 01's picture

What a fun weekend ,great downhill Saturday would really like more time on that track would be a rush once you know it better.Sunday was hard,the start was very fast more like a short course race ...then the hills came steep & slippery with lush downhill single track between them.Was so glade to get to 70km drink station to be told only 25km to go what a bonus.I need to get fitter for the next one

Profile: http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/episode/3194324

evan's picture

WOW closer to 3000m worth of climbing according to Steve's motionbased, not 1440 like advertised.

Elevation Change   Total (m)
Total Elevation   5,594
Elevation Gain   2,796
Elevation Loss   2,798
Net Elevation Change   -2

If you need to get fitter for the next one Steve then I got alot of work to do. Smiling

Evan

Little-Ditty's picture

Insanity! Sticking out tongue

Little-Ditty's picture

Gaz, have you tried calling Telstra then?? Sticking out tongue

Little-Ditty's picture

Race report:

I had no expectation on what this 50km race would be like, having never ridden in any kind of competition before. Especially the kind that would require hard riding without much of a rest - or time to eat properly. From my vantage point, I found the going at the start of the race quite difficult, as it was harder to get a rhythm going with so many riders around you. I suppose that is not really a physical thing, more mental. Especially with the first 15km being up and downhill and a muddy single track. I think I would have been 10 minutes faster if I could have avoided all of the XC riders struggling through those muddy downhills and bumps and jumps. But them's the breaks. I should have gone harder earlier. It's not all bad. On some of the dirty / muddy downhill bits, you could launch some fast and massive air off the mounds, with some tail flicks and other air action to relieve the boredom of the straight trails. A couple of times I overtook some XC riders on the downhills (you know, that sad Cannondale brigade??!!) who watched the action and called out some whoops and cheers for getting on the attack and giving them a serious go. They overtook me many times on the uphills. Priorities Sticking out tongue

Once I established for myself a proper pace in the firetrails in the middle of the race, I was quite happy with my pace. I found them great fun to be honest, and no different to an Oaks ride or places at Ourimbah. Not bad at all. Hitting the drinks station at 25 km was a godsend, as so many of us were surely very thirsty at that point - and were sick of drinking water. Alas, what did we get? Some cherry flavoured sports drink (the brand name escapes me, but god! Who could buy it??) that tasted like it was created in a meth lab. Yechh! I suppose it had sodium and electolyte, so maybe it did do some good. I had 4 of them.

I admit that while riding along, mainly by myself at this point, I was looking around at the connecting trails wondering where they all went. There must be a myriad of connections that must make some super downhill trails in there. We must do the main parts of the 50km again over 5 or so hours, to really enjoy the place. It must be awesome.

My favourite part on the firetrails was this straight and open fire trail section, that had a wooden pallet jump off on the right shoulder of the trail, about 2 feet high. The normal fire trail lines continued on the left. As it was downhill, you could get massive speed and you see it approaching from a distance. You see the target, in the gunsights, and think this will add some action to this part of the ride!! Approaching with your eyes wide, you are looking for any last minute show stoppers like wooden planks with nails, hidden rocks, the landing zone, etc. All looks good, and BOMBS AWAY!! Massive air and tail flick. Huge fun, with the XC riders behind calling out a cheer. I turn around and one of them followed me over the jump. Good on him! It is nice sharing that kind of camaraderie on the trails. It is one of the things that stands out in my memory now.

So where is everyone else? I think I am close to 30km now and I have not seen, been passed, or overtaken, anyone I know - a bit lonely in fact. But not long later on the fire trail I spot a vaguely familiar figure 300m ahead. It's Caro still cranking away, striving ahead with sore knee and all. She looks quite fatigued in fact, but in true Caro fashion she smiles (I was glad you were happy to see me - you were the first rider I knew who I came across) and we share a quick moment which was at least pleasing to me. I push on as we are climbing a hill, and low and behold we come across Rob, Evan and Shane. The 3 musketeers are also pushing along as best they can. As I push through I get a few cheers and I also recall the warmth for sharing a fleeting moment on the course with our NobMob buddies. I keep grinding away.

Another couple of kays along the firetrails and very fast, hard packed downhill trails, I start getting some leg cramp twinges. Oh sh*t. Not now!! I am probably about 35 km in now, and I back off and continue grinding at a slower pace. The hills, particularly the steep muddy ones, as now to be walked as I sense I do not have all that much available leg strength to waste on riding up a hill, that would not be much faster than walking pace anyway. Turning for home now, with a few kays to go, was a great feeling. Just as I got off the road we were riding beside, and back onto the single trails. You just sense that there is not much more to do.

Finally, a marshall calls out to me 2 km to go. How awesome!! There is a surge of adrenaline as I know the strength within me can surely last another couple of kays. I put in the supreme effort. Much of the return into the finish line is single track, with some really cool technical bits with bumps and launches to get air off. I am pedalling almost full speed now, close to the top of the middle chain ring.

Downhill and jumps coming up... some XC riders in the way, walking their bikes down the hilly bits... some tree roots and drops in there too... spot my landing... set my target of where to launch and land... blast past the XC riders who are left gawking and pulling their steeds out off the track and out of the way. With so much speed, I barrell up the far side of the hill in a high chain ring without slowing down!! Hear the P.A, hear the motorbikes revving their engines in the parking area, can't be long now, see the finish line as I pump up the last hill. Continue pumping hard all the way to the line with my head down.

Finished!!

A very nice feeling, for anyone that rode this track. Only 50km, I know... With the soft soil and the mud holes and puddles, this was an energy sapping course, for sure. Definitely sucks the power out of you. No purchase on the soft ground in the forest sections. I reckon in the summer, that identical 50km trail (assuming you hydrated yourself properly) would be close to 30 minutes faster. But if it is faster, so too is the danger as speed increases.

To all that came along, hung around, cheered, and swapped stories and tales from the trails with me, thank you. Eye-wink I really enjoyed your support, and also providing you support for your own race. It makes the experience much better. I enjoyed the post finish chats, war stories, hearing what you did, etc.

And, I only had one stack!! Laughing out loud

Stuart M's picture

And even better work on Sunday.

One thing though, imagine how much faster those latte sipping cannondale lot would have been if they didn't have to ride around some downhilling madman lugging a 16+Kg bike up those muddy trails, and just imagine how much quicker you would have been on an XC bike, you might even crack 2h30m. Get with the program mate and come over to the dark, oh sorry, lite side Eye-wink

Stuart

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petulance's picture

Bah, that's nothing ... my pig of an XC bike weighs 14 kilos. A convenient excuse for me to walk up hills.

Sticking out tongue

Little-Ditty's picture

Mmmm, close. More like 18kg. But who's counting? Eye-wink

kiwiboy's picture

My wife was also in the group that missed the cutoff due mainly to the late start - and she was a contender for a third place in her category (none was awarded in the end, she only had to finish!!)

Having said that a chain break in the third stage kindly repaired by a passing rider (and thanks to that rider if he is a NoBMoBBer, Tracy wasn't sure) combined with a bit of a wait at the split point for a slow and cramping husband also contributed. Discretion being the better part of valour and after a short abortive attempt at the 100 stopped dead by the first uphill, I opted for the 50km option and let her head off for line honours. Judging by her report I am glad I did - the next stage was madness.

Bit of a bitter pill when a possible placing went wanting for a late start - never mind. More speed less haste next time.

Stuart M's picture

Or were you both gone by the time I made it back to the finish?

nh's picture

Hi,

It was good to see everyone at Coffs.

I did the 50km race and got way too carried away on all the single track for the first 15km of so. Once we hit the fire trials I was struggling and just hung on until the end. I also followed another rider through a junction where there was no sign. It was about 10km from the finish where you turn onto the area that had been logged. After a couple of kms we turned around and returned to the junction see one of the marshals getting out of his 4wd car with a sign. Didn't make a lot of difference to my class result as I was about half an hour of placing.

2.58.29 4th in the 16-29 50km

Shown up by Bec

2.57.47 1st female overall in the 50km

The prizes weren't too exciting, a horrible water proof bag and 1 tyre!

Cheers,

Nigel

Caro's picture

Hiya,

a bit late but if anybody wants to know what it feels like to ride 70km 5min too slow... Smiling,
here you go:

What a great start! Riding along with Shane, Rob and Evan talking about “aahhh, easy, just another Nobmob ride” (If we had known…..!Smiling)
Love the track, feel good! (As always the track has turned into a big blur in my memory so don’t mind that)
I don’t remember who left whom, when and caught up again… At some point Shane and Rob are gone and Ev and me tag team for a while. What an amazing forest and ALL single track!!! Wish it had been dry! After loosing control over my back wheel on one of those slippery (invisible) tree roots for the x time, gravity forces me to lie down for a sec. Taking a little while until I get my confidence back, I slow down and Ev goes on chasing the boys.

Regrouping with Rob, Ev and Shane vat the first water stop.
The demoralising begins Sad. After the boys take off again (I decide against chasing them and stick with my own pace) the first 50km riders start overtaking me. (It was so nice to see you Liam but I wish it had been after the race Eye-wink!!) I can not believe that you caught me so early??

Catch up with the boys again at the 50km turn off (about 38km mark)and after having a gel and a couple of minutes of chit chat I decide to ride on thinking they will catch me again in a couple of minutes anyway…
Instead of having long breaks I’m stopping roughly every 7kms for a couple of minutes for a gel or sth.
Stupidly I don’t refill my hydration pack at the 38km mark because I expect the next water stop at about 50km (note to self: next time read course description!!!!!)

From then on I don’t remember much just endless uphill (oh noooooo, not again!!!) and downhill (uaaahhhhh… too slippery!!!!! my breaks are not working!!!)…. you get my experience.
I can NOT believe that there are actually hills THAT steep or that anyone could RIDE up them. Would love to watch the Elite guys riding up there!!! Meet a few other riders and we are having a couple of laughs about us crawling up the hills (nice memory Smiling).

At a road crossing at about 60km (still no water stop???) the friendly marshals tells me that I am ‘almost’ at the check point and the stop will be in about 4km. At that point it is 2.20pm or so and the woman says: ‘no worries, you are almost there, you will make the cut of EASY!!’

Such good news cause I was getting worried, my pace is ridiculously slow! Move on!
(Unfortunately she has no clue what she is talking about!! God bless!)
Another km and another and another….. still in the gullies, still no stop, not much water left…. Soooo p… off about myself !! Crazy!!

Then the stack. The track hits a fire trail and I completely misjudge the situation therefore am going straight OTB!! FAR OUT!!!??? I have absolutely NO time for this, only 30min or so until the cut off and still no check point!!??

Worst moment of the day:
3.20pm. I hear two guys on motor bikes coming up behind me. The sweepers!!
Telling me I would probably not make it. %&$§?/§…!!!
Am trying not to waste my energy on being upset. It is not 3.30 yet!

3.35pm. arrive at the 70km mark at the top of another hill.
Am I too late???????
Yes.
Can you make an exception please!!
No, we are sorry. You wouldn’t make it in time.

Aaaaarggg!!!???
Impossible!!!!
This must be a bad dream!?

Other riders arrive and laughing and chatting about it makes things a bit better. Especially hearing kiwiboys wife rave about the Rush Smiling

Very odd moment to arrive at the finish in a van, slightly embarrassed but very glad to see all of you guys!

What a day! Laughing out loud

Andy Bloot's picture

Sounds like I'd be arriving on a stretcher

Stuart M's picture

Absolulety no need to have had any feelings of embarressment.

I never cease to be amazed / inspired by your level of fitness / ability / confidence everytime I ride have had the pleasure of riding with you. Probably not much coming from someone of my skill/fitness level but seriously girl, embarrassed shouldn't have been one of the emotions you were feeling. To have got so far on a course that many a seasoned rider has claimed to be the hardest they have ridden is one thing, to have done it in a time that missed the cut by only 5 mins when the start was delayed 45mins is a fact you should be proud of. You should only be more proud of the way you carried yourself when you were brought back to the finish. I know for a fact if that was me I would have been absolutely ropable, would have been letting everyone within ear shot know and would not have had the dignity which you displayed, hell you were even smiling. Maybe this says more about my character than yours but I think you should be walking around with your head held high and I'm sure I'm not the only to feel that way. Why do you think we are all "scared" of what will happen when you get a lite xc dually?

Well done

evan's picture

Hey Caro,

At least you made the checkpoint. That was a top effort.
Must admit I am still gutted I didn't make the check point or finish for that matter.Sad
Next year with vengeance.

Ev

Bruce's picture

And don't forget the coarse designer didn't finish either. That's gotta tell you something!

You should be nothing other than proud of yourself for a monster effort on totally brutal coarse.

To be totally honest I thought about pulling out several times, the last half was pure pain, the only thing that got me home was the thought of the mob at the finish line.

Caro's picture

Don't know what to say now... Smiling
Guess that's why it made my day to see you at the end of the whole palaver, priceless!
Thanks a million!
See you on Sunday Laughing out loud
C

Little-Ditty's picture

This accurately sums up the state of mind of us riders at these races. When you are totally spent, and are at your physical and emotional limits. You tend to get these kinds of reactions. Quite interesting, in that we are all generally the same, I think.

Nice post Caro. Glad to have read it. Smiling

christine's picture

you are a dag! you should be SO proud of yourself - the boys are right - to come in with a smile - to even start the 100... and you can't ignore the 45mins delay - for any of you who were brought in! And you all came in with a great attitude - naturally, since you are nobmobbers!!!!
you can keep the 100ks though! I love the fiftys!

shano's picture

What can I say that Carolin has not said already!

Mixed feelings of course you expect to finish. But you never know how hard its going to be!
Having been told that the profile was double ...didn't really matter on the day...I was loving every minute on the singletrack. Being a local lad...it was more disappointing for my folks whom turned up at the finish line.
The pre-ride on Saturday and the follow up on Friday...made up for those "short klms"
figure I was cheated out of the last downhill run..
Big ups to Evan..who solidered on when I went out into the frontline and got killed in the hills. It was good to have a buddy out there in the same zone!
Thanks to Rob who was more mindful of his health and gave up some pills and powder.
Carolin your the Champion...on a hardtail with iffy brakes..smiling all the while..
Remember its not all about finishing...but how you ride and enjoying yourself ...why else would we do it!
I know I wouldn't have made it past the checkpoint..simple as that.
That is good to know when I sign up for the next hundred, train longer and harder.
Will looking forward to the Pine Creek 2 ride..sometime soon!
Thanks to everyone who was hanging out at the finish line...man it was good to see your faces.
shane

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