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How much light is too much light?


hawkeye's picture

By hawkeye - Posted on 23 April 2013

For off-road, I've come to the view that more is better, especially when it's a nice wide even beam spread.

Here's a review article on the bar light I used at the Mont. It played a key part I reckon in my improved times on last year's event, and made a major difference to my enjoyment of the night laps.

http://www.bicycles.net.au/2013/04/heat-battle-m...

Pete B's picture

Nice review, John and well done in The Mont.

If you ever need a hand testing and reviewing gear, let me know. Eye-wink

Epic29er's picture

When I am at home I ride to work from mandurah to the navy base on garden island. The security guards on the main gate before the bridge are full on about making sure the cyclists are brightly lit when transiting onto the island. Because of this I have been using the moon set up. It's a brand my bike guy down in mandurah put me onto. The brand is moon and the front and back are called the meteor and the comet. I have not done a night XC race yet and I am looking forward to doing one with these lights. Easy rubber straps, USB rechargeable, bright as a 1000 suns. Only like 150-160 for the pair from memory. Good strobe function as well as 3 brightness levels. I reckon I'd use two during a night race I think, one on the bike and one on the helmet.

I tell you what, is happily strap 20 of the red ones to my back if it ment the trucks on the highway would move over an extra foot or two when they fly past me at 100k plus.

wal's picture

Couldnt agree with you more.
More light is better.

A bright wide beam that can see around corners is my 1st option.
A bright wide beam that can see around corners is my 2nd option.

chrischris's picture

Is that a pic of you hawkeye? Great action shot! I love those great night photos.

I once tried to get a pic of myself from a professional photographer at an 8 hr race. He never returned any emails...

Flynny's picture

Heaps of light is cool for going fast but every now and then I crack out my old vista lights just to relive the feeling of blasting through a corridor of black with just a tiny spot of yellowish light to guide your way.

Sure you are probably riding a lot slower and reaction times needed to be spot but it feels like you are warp speed 9 and it is a totally different sensation from riding in broad day light, which some of these new fangled light seem to replicate pretty well these day /old man

Simon's picture

Just noting that lights have been an ongoing concern of many residents near tracks and also by managers of national parks and conservation reserves.

Tasmania has led the way by deferring any decision until evidence confirms there is an impact on nocturnal animals.

In Sydney with NPWS and Manly Dam we have been pointing to studies showing that lights under 50W meet best practice guidelines for night time Eco Tourism which is promoted on government websites. What 50W is has become a but grey given LED lights with very different efficiencies.

We have also discussed restricting night time riding to before 10pm as a fall back position if night riding is out of question. A 10pm curfew sits well with other State legislation.

ps's picture

I suspect they will bring in an upper limit on lights for racing as well. Having 600 odd people riding a course all kitted out with devices that can cause eye damage wont be sustainable.

for what its worth I rode the mont with a set of old ayups and my night laps were 3 minutes slower than my day laps. My theory is that if you do enough night riding its possible to find the required comfort level to maintain a decent pace.

hawkeye's picture

I'm not sure we're there yet, but if the technology keeps advancing at the current rate (Moore's Law) I think you're right, an upper limit on outputs at some stage soon is inevitable.

The advice not to look directly in the beam has a strong element of CYA (cover your arse), but people have been known to do stupid things and if you were to stare into it on full grunt for a length of time, yeah you'd probably get a similar effect to looking directly at the real sun. "Well, it's in the notes so you can't say you weren't warned. You want to sue us? Good luck with that."

While the output is probably similar to a car headlight somewhere below high beam, the issue as I see it is the light is being emitted from such a tiny area (compared to say car headlight reflectors) that the point intensity for the onlooker is painfully high.

Wish I could get by with my old Ay-Ups. Perhaps they're getting a bit tired, more likely my one night a year of riding flat out on singletrack means that level of comfort will continue to elude me without a big-ass light.

hawkeye's picture

Yeah, those shots were of me. First time that I got some I was happy with. I have some reasonable daytime ones as well

The young bloke, on the other hand, is so much more photogenic on a bike than me... he got some absolute rippers taken of him.

This is a two shot sequence I'm going to get printed and mounted for him. The sequence really makes the second shot "pop" in a slide show

From last year

And me again:

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