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Is there any reason why i shouldn't use art mask making latex solutions for use in my homemade tubeless setup?
See http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Art-Masking-Fluid-100ml-R...
If i shouldn't use this, where can i find a latex solutions that's not $500000000 Stans or DT swiss solutions?
thanks
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Apparently you have to mix with water as it's a bit thick. Erm... think I read somewhere once.
Although Stans is cheaper than this particular item so don't know why you wouldn't use that.
Stans is $55 for 435mL,
this is $37 for 500mL incl postage.
if i have to water it doen, then it's more than 500mL worth
where have you found Stan's cheaper?
is cheap if you buy it overseas (like pretty much everything else).
$15-20 USD per quart - last OS order I bought 2 bottles (from Jenson @ USD $18 ea) - probably enough for a year or more with lots of tyre changing...
Although there is a very good argument for cheap options, I go with the safe consistent option of pre-made stans.
I do a lot of racing, and depend on it to 'not' get punctures.
I would not buy it locally though with the uplift in price charged by the importers.
There is a locally made option. A guy in melbourne apparently makes a high quality mix.
James at www.ozriders.com.au, $35 for 500ml. Still not cheap, but you can buy locally made product which is a good thing.
I just bought some latex from Adelaide Moudling and Casting Supplies last week. (http://www.amcsupplies.com.au/catalogue/index.ph...)
Cost me $34 deliverd for 1Kg which will make up over 2 litres.
Converted two rims to tubeless over the weekend with good results.
There is an art supply place at Ryde that sells it $29 for 1 litre
That's interesting. Where in ryde is it? Is it appropriate for use in tyres
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havent used it yet but its the stuff that they reccomend on the Ghetto tubless thread on rotorburn
is the go ,its green,its cheap, seals up porous 1ply tyres, washs up with water and cooks your toast, been using it for 6 months on the old ghetto setup no problems, exept it doesnt seal up 10mm gashs in new minion tyres though, happend twice!!! ,(either there crap or im just rough on tyres, probably the later) good thing they were only 20 bucks. you can get it at repco
Isn't the stuff from art shops alot thicker than required?
If so, can they just be diluted with water (or some other solvent)?
What ratio of dilution should i use?
It's a long read but the first post has been kept up to date and has all the details.
I diluted mine with water 1:1.
http://www.rotorburn.com/forums/showthread.php?t...
Hi Guys,
Just in case you've not seen it, I've got a blog post going on tubless. It's a 'long term' report
http://nobmob.com/node/6453
I had a look at the rotorburn thread, pretty long and lots of information and discussion!
Keep in mind a lot of people posting there are learning as they go. It is excellent that people are developing low cost alternatives to Stans and other commercial products, and I'll probably give it a go myself sometime.
From a safety perspective, just watch out for sweeping statement like 'you can use any non-tubless tyre' and the like. Some have loose/weak beads, and the recommended/not-recommended tyre list on Stan's site is a good resource. I don't use tubeless specific tyres on my tubeless rims, but I have had a maxxis high roller kevlar bead snap (and the tyre kind of exploded off the wheel), and recently I had a Larson pop off while riding around the dam. that really surprised me, as I've probably run about 5 Larsons previously with no problem. Keeping this in perspective, I've probably used over 25 tyres in the last 5-6 years that I've been running tubeless.
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The list on stan's website is not exactly comprehensive. It just lists manufacturers.
I am a bit of a tyre collector, so at the moment i have about 20 tyres to choose from.
I've currently got on a set of maxxis advantage 2.4" with tubes.
If i go for a tubeless setup, should i keep this tyre or go for a skinner larsenn TT 2.0 or crosmark 2.1, or go the other end for a high roller 2.7 or something midrange like a kenda nevegal 2.35.
aaah to much choice!!! I just need a formula which tells me the answer: Ax^2+Bx+C=0
thanks.
Hey jpack,
There is a growing list of tyre reports there with others contributing too.
In this case 'size does not matter'
No problem running larger 'bag' sizes, and in some cases they work better as they run at a lower pressure (down to the point where burping is the limiting factor).
I'm having trouble finding 20" tubes with presta valves for my ghetto tubeless setup. I've tried several bikes stores. I can't believe i might have to resort to internet to find tubes.
Any suggestions.
I live in turramurra and work in guildford. Are there any bikes in-between that would have the elusive tubes?
There are some here http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_... I buy from stuff these guys all the time with no problem.
Stupid question, but how do you water down latex if it's rubber based?
you use water..... or windex. As liquid latex is ammonia based adding something like windex does help keep it liquid for a bit longer..... Oh there is also a shop just down the road from where you work that sells latex for $25ish a litre (about 1.25 ltr once "watered down")
If you don't want to DIY sealants, City Bike Depot have Stans 473ml for $25 at their sale.
They also have single serve bottles for $5.