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DIY Servicing
Not to sound cheap (because really I am) but the cost of servicing my beloved is more than servicing my Subaru!!
Without mentioning LBS names, but some places charge up to $230 for a full service and thats without brake, drivetrain and shock servicing, which is all I need really.
So my question is, is whether there is anyone out there that has converted the garage/shed/outback loo/treehouse etc to a workshop and knows enough of the know to help service a few of our rigs and also teach us some jedi mind tricks in the process involved with it.
All for a competitive fee of course ...
Alternatively, a referral for a battlin LBS who needs the work would be great.
Also the brakes (Juicy 7's) is making not a squealing noise but more of a bubbly water noise. It's been there from the get go (rig is only a year old) and the LBS I bought it from said "oh it will go away eventually" <-- bullocks! This was after a few service sessions with them as well !
Can anybody help?
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What you should try is google searching for a solution whenver you have a problem, soon enough you should have enough tools and know-how to do many jobs yourself
Are you saying all you need is brake, drivetrain and shock servicing?
Also, did they say what was covered in the $230 full service?
flubbergusted, whisperer was talking about doing training sessions a while ago, exactly what you are looking for. I'm not sure if he is still thinking along those lines but it's worth a shot, he might pipe in here at one point.
Failing that, if you feel comfortable get some decent tools, a stand, watch lots of videos, and use this forum for advice. If you take your time there are a lot of things you can do your self. There are only a few things I won't do myself now, and it's good to know how your bike works, not to mention the money saving. It doesn't make sense to me to send my MTB in for a service all the time, but then I feel comfortable with the spanner that ultimately is keeping my bike together pelting down a hill at break neck speed.
... is pretty much the same thought I have if a nut came loose when I'm barreling down the downhill section off the wakehurst!
I have been watching a few youtube clips and so forth and bought all the right equipment but feel a bit more comfortable if someone who has Obi-Wan knowledge of bikes, who can show us first hand on how its done first.
The $230 service doesnt include shock and brake service and really only includes things like checks, test ride, drivetrain, cables, hub & headset & seat pole lube down ... most of which I can do myself, minus drivetrain.
We're riding Fox shocks and I have a Lefty. These would be items that I would pay to get done as it seems pretty intense for it to be done on my own.
$230 is a disgrace! A full service should mean a full service not just the easy bits...
For juicy brakes I've used this video before it's easy to follow just pause and play as you go, you'll need an avid bleed kit (crc have them).
http://youtu.be/6mg6NbIjmOM
Drive train is easy enough, you'll need a few tools, bottom bracket tool, chain whip and allen keys, annaconda seem to have reasonably priced tools, again youtube should have plenty of examples.
Never serviced forks before but if that's the price of servicing I'll be searching for a video when the time comes.
Go for it - sure if you mess it up you'll learn how to do it for next time and can bring it to the bike shop!
Google saviour it was... yep, turns out there is a symptom for my brake problem. Its Turkey Gobble!
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=425196
Prefer not to stuff around with the rotors and pads and have Avid to fix it but dooooooh.... i dont wanna send it back to the States to get the bloody thing fixed or replaced.
The DIY option of fixing turkey gobble is to change rotors, pads and bleed it. This just sent Juicys, which i used to love, now down shitcreek!
I agree, $230 is a rip off but ok ... IF it included the full shebang of brakes and shocks.
230.00 for a std service is a rip anyway you look at it, we charge $65.00 for a full service and from what we have been told its beter than most around, not trying to blow my own trumpet but that $230.00 is a joke.
for $230.00 from us you can have
service
rear fox shock serviced, new seal kit fitted
new gear cables
wheels true out of the bike
and still get about, $40.00 change
The left over 40 can be an optional detail for the bike. Polish the frame, black the tyres etc... lol
In all seriousness, yeah it certainly sounds like a rip. General stuff is pretty easy work out on the bike. But it is always good to get a pro to go over it and service it. They pick up stuff that we miss, before it becomes a problem. So we don't get left on the trail with a big hike out.
It comes from experience, they know what is susceptible to wear and failures.
just on the brakes...
Juicys do have an international rep for the gobble (well in Ireland anyway)
I have juicy 7's too and while I've only ever had turkey gobble in the wet and boggy conditions, I've tinkered around with them a bit. Try this before sending the bike anywhere.
First, take out the pads, and check wear if you've had them a year it's probably time for new pads... easy to see once their out
then wipe down the rotors with alcohol, not jager but special cleaning alcohol!
bleeding eliminates air bubbles in the hose line and shouldn't really have anything to do with the noise so if the performance of the brake is good and solid they don't need bleeding.
if you put the new pads in you'll need to reset the piston by slowly pushing it back in with a small spanner. (dont worry if a little fluid leaks from the brake reservoir)
then centre the pads on the rotor by loosening the two allen key bolts, pull he brake a few times and then tighten the bolts while keeping the brake pulled.
much harder to explain then to do
Send me a pm if you get stuck
Its not just Juicys. Avid's in general have the reputation but it seems to be completely random on who suffers. I have juicy sevens and never had the issue (unless the pads are wet) but the Elixers I have now have the problem. What works for one persons brake/bike combo doesn't work for another. I put organics in last night to see how it goes.
Buy the Park Tools Big Blue Book of Bicycle Repair
and
Zinn and the Art of Mountain Bike Maintainance.
Then when you need a specific tool for a problem, buy it yourself. Then before you know it you will have a full tool box!
To help bed pads in / reduce annoying noises they make like the turkey noise, put some very fine sand into where the pads are and roll the bike forward whilst gently applying pressure on the brakes.
It sounds silly but ive seen it work!
I have accidentally put inox on my discs when lubing up my chain and the brakes made a hell of a racket and would not stop the bike! This may have happened with your juicy's. I fixed it with sandpaper on the pads and discs.