As previously discussed (see Northern Beaches National Parks to pilot Sustainable MTB Access) today was the day for a "full day of consultation" which consisted of a NPWS facilitated workshop, "... to explore opportunities for sustainable cycling and mountain biking in the region.".

Pictured here you see the smiling faces after a full morning of discussion. We had reason to smile too, as the session was very useful, well organised and well mannered. The day consisted of a few presentations, splitting into groups for smaller discussion, whole group discussions and other brainstorming.

In the afternoon we visited a (rather wet) Bantry Bay and walked through the area discussing various issues. The good news here was that trail design and maintenance guru Glen Jacobs (from World Trail) saw nothing here that was a major challenge or problem.

I have to say the group was very lucky to have Glen there today as his experience really shone through. The NPWS staff seemed very enlightened by what he had to say, particularly when talking about how proper trail design can be used to effectively control rider behaviour. We are like sheep aparently - give us sweet single track and we'll follow it anywhere

We were also very fortunate to have Tony Scott (MTBA) and Nick Bowman (of the newly formed IMBA Australia) along with a couple of NPWS Directors (Carl Solomon and Bob Conroy). It would appear that a way forward can be found at a high level between these senior guys that will be beneficial to everyone working a 'grass roots' level - that includes everyone out there that has supported efforts publicised here on this site, and through others (such as HSMBA) and our local clubs. It has to be said, that without everyone's support this workshop could have never happened - thank you all!

As usually there isn't much in the way of planning that can be shared, but a couple of choice quotes from the 'Next steps' closing. NPWS are committed to "remain relevant" to the community and park visitors which obviously includes catering for the very popular and ever growing MTB base. They are also committed to, "selection, design & development of sustainable trails" in the future.

As usual, will keep everyone up to date with further progress, but going on this showing some good things are coming... although there is always a down side - it will be slow progress as always, but you already knew that, right?

I've just had an email from NPWS regarding rider limits on organised rides in National Parks.

The attached form one was asked to sign lists (amongst others) the following fees:

• Application Administration fee: $55.00 - Dependent upon application
• Application fee: Dependent upon application
• Per head fee: To be advised if applicable
• Security Deposit and other fees: To be advised if applicable

As you can see, signing such a form leaves anyone open to at least a $55 liability and probably more as these fees are TBA and no limit is mentioned on the form.

You will also note from the below that a three week notice is required which is probably unworkable.

From this I think there is little option but to limit all rides to 20 or less and I'll be turning that on now. Sorry, but this is bureaucracy run wild and have told NPWS as much.

Due to a hazard reduction burn starting at approx 4 PM occurring in Garigal National Park on Thursday 13 November 2008 the following park closures will be in place until further notice:

• Kamber Fire Trail
• Five Mile Trail
• Slippery Dip Trail
• all other nearby legal & illegal trails

Due to a hazard reduction burn occurring in Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park on Friday 14 November 2008 the following park closures will be in place until further notice:

• Cooyong/Neverfail Trail (also known as the Ryland Trail)
• Sandy Trail
• Neverfail Gully Trail
• Larool Trail (which is part of Dundundra Reserve)

Road closures will also be in place both days, including disruptions to Mona Vale Rd and Forest Way so please avoid the area if possible. For more updated information on road closures please check the RTA website or call 02 9450 3000/9472 8949.

Just spoke to a ranger at Manly Dam and there's some good news...

Seems like they are in the process of hiring a replacement for Nicole and this replacement will hopefully be starting within a month or so. The rangers definitely want to continue to work with riders on trail maintenance and appreciate all of the interest. With another person on board this should mean that can happen once more.

So give the newbie a chance to settle in and start arrangements. Not sure of course, but maybe this means within a couple of months the maintenance days will return?

In the mean time a bit of common sense is still required when thinking of riding around there. The track is still officially closed and would think it'll be at least another week before it dries out, even longer if the weather stays bad.