Spynergy wheelset

If Torpedo could supply it with a 20mm axle.
I would prefer to use them for training and leave the SL's for racing... Mate of mine in SA (the country) has them on his AR bike and reckons they are close to being indestructible...
As Rob said, if they were UST compatible them they would be the real package!
If you don't like white spokes, you could always get them from the states and have them in red or blue or yellow... =;o)

A quote often attributed to Paul Rowney - "Friends dont let friends ride Spinergy"

Nope, although he may have been referring to earlier models which by most accounts were dogs.

At the price T7 are offering them they seem a pretty good deal. I don't know how you would go getting bits replaced if you needed to replace a spoke.

Yeah, Petulance... I'm with you there. Nothing worse than a great product that can't be fixed/upgraded due to proprietary parts.

Stuart - buy your own bits and lace them yourself. That way you can get the blue spokes - oh dear

I just built myself a set of 'cross wheels (Velocity Dyads, Surly Hubs & Sapim Race spokes). I was surprised how easy it was, lacing the wheel was very relaxing, truing and tensioning was a bit more nerve wracking.

wheel building.

I am after a set of lite, ie less than 1700gm per pair including skewers, wheels for the Kona, pure xc riding. The prob is they need to be strong enough to last a 106kg rider that rides with the smoothness of, well, a 106kg rider. See pics in Sparrow Hill gallery if you don't know what I mean. I expect the next set to bounce back from this sort of thing as well as these Mavic / Shimano ones did. http://nobmob.com/node/2023 It is most unlikely they would ever be "jump" as most of you that have ridden with me would already know.

So what componentry should I be going for?

Speak up now or forever hold your tongue when I show up with a set of Spinergy wheels that by all accounts are almost bomb proof, remember also that this price includes, skewers, rim tape, truing tools and delivery is only $9

had weighed a set at 1890gm. Not enough of a weight saving for me to justify even the $500 outlay.

Thanks anyway.

Mavic 317 rims laced to XT hubs from Phantom.

I really, really, don't need a new set of wheels ...

If and when you finally come across a set that fit that bill, I was actually looking sub 1700gm, then please let me know, remember that I am heavier than you though. For the moment I think I might let this go, been an expensive couple of months for upgrades as it is and at the end of the day T7's normal price is only $60 more, less than 10% and still cheaper than I have managed to find elsewhere.

For upgrades based soley on weight I set myself a target of $1 per gram, will stretch this out to $2 if it is also a technical upgrade as was the case with the Reba's. Other wise I wait till I break things, which actually happens quite often, then approach with a different attitude. I'll deduct the cost of the same product from the cost of the lighter version, maybe I'm just kidding myself but it seems more affordable and justifiable that way. Interested in others thoughts on this one.

BTW if you are running tubed tyres and want to save some weight then use lighter tubes. I'm currently running tubes that are only 100gm, about 120 lighter than the old ones and this offsets the heavier weight of the Larsen LUST tyres Flynny was talking about in the Tubless tyre thread.

Thanks for the input.

I got rid of 6kgs off myself and starting beating people in club races I hadn't beaten before,
saved myself a fortune at the same time.
Also I own American classics they light as and have never buckled under my 85kg I only use them for racing though but I still would have done 1500-2000km on them.
John

I came up with a few different setups for the wheels, but one that might be suitable for Stuart to modify is this:

--- Front
395g Mavic 717 rim
30g rim tape
185g 32x DT Comp spokes
14g 32x alu nipples
195g DT Swiss 340 Disc Front Hub

--- Rear
395g Mavic 717 rim
30g rim tape
185g 32x DT Comp spokes
14g 32x alu nipples
343g DT Swiss 340 Disc Rear Hub

This gives a total weight of 1786g, which is under my target of 1800g. Most of the parts are pretty standard and well-proven with the exception of the hubs which are rather expensive. They are pretty lightweight and ought to be quite durable. I've specifically avoided the DT 240s as their sealing isn't up to the standard I expect for an MTB wheel. If you can put up with regular regreases and rebuilds they'll save you some weight.

You could squeeze this under 1700g by going for bladed spokes (USD$5.10 per spoke!) which will give you a total weight of 1694g. This is pretty impressive for any set of wheels (road or MTB) that isn't in stupid-light (non-durable) territory.

The rim might be a little lightweight for Stuart, however. It's pretty much the lightest MTB rim you can buy. I also know nothing about the durability of the bladed spokes, and given the price I'd be reticent to recommend them.

So if you wanted the absolute lightest set of wheels possible, you could go for:
24 spokes
240s hubs
bladed spokes

but don't come crying to me when it tacos after you hit a rock on an angle!

There are cheaper and better weight savings to be had - such as switching to a V brake on the rear.

As for the UST-vs-non-UST weight argument, UST wheels need sealant (well, not really, but it helps), the rims weigh more and the tires weigh more. Tubed tires have tubes and rim tape. It's not a big difference, but in my mind the UST option does weigh a fraction more.

I've had no problems with my 240s,

If you wanted light (& sticking with DT Hubs) you'd be going for the new DT190 hubs & Stans Olympic Rims (~360g). That will get you under 1.4kg for the wheel set (and still with 32 spokes)