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Cascades via Mona Vale Single Track bottom of Oxford Falls (Pls comment if this route is OK to ride)
Hi All,
I'm a noobie to this site. I recently posted a ride to hook up for this route:
1. Enter Cascades from Stone Pde;
2. Through Cascades (few nice fast downhills), with long (killer - read good training) uphill to Mona Vale Rd;
3. Cross Mona Vale at St Ives Wild Flower Garden;
4. Enter single track parallel (awesome single track) to Mona Vale, through St Ives Show Grounds;
5. Eventually arrive at intersection of Forest Way, Mona Vale Rd (opp corner is Supa Centa);
6. EDITED..... Private Message me...
7. Eventually arrive at Oxford Falls Downhill course (skipped that part), along tar road;
8. Enter Cascades at Electricity SubStation, down into Cascades with probably the best/fast downhill section of the whole track with speed bum JUMPS at speed (awesome);
9. then final few serious uphills again to finish at Stone Pde.
We did ~25Kms in 2:15.
One of the guys joined me and said I should post the route for comment, to see if we are allowed to ride in these areas ? Can you please comment ?
Rgds
Sean
P.S. How do I share the .KMZ file, lemme know how to upload pls ?
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Point 1 and 2 are all fire trails, and it is a combination of crown land and national park. I can't really make out your route but I think you came up cascades proper and rode along the road till wild flower garden.
Point 3 is crown land so all good there.
Point 6 to 7 is National Park and that track is illegal. In fact I would imagine posting this at all might raise some eyebrows at the very least.
Point 8 starts as Crown land (I think) but you are on fire trail anyway so are OK as long as you are in control over those jumps
Easiest way to get your route up is to hook your GPS up to a web site (Garman uses Garman Connect) and then save the .kmz from there. Easy to embed too.
Thanks LadyToast for the comments. Is there a place I get view where we are allowed to ride or not ? Like National and Crown land maps ?
Thanks.
Sean
Sean - thanks for not taking the comments about the route personally. NPWS are well aware of the track you have asked to be PM'd about, as they are about just about every unauthorised track in the area. I would ask people please not to ride this one (or any other unofficial single track for that matter). Everyone who does is damaging efforts to get legal single track built elsewhere.
The rule of thumb should be: if it's single track in NPWS land then generally it's not for riding on. Sad but true, there are lots of people working on changing that but we should all play nice until things officially change here. Google Maps, etc. show NPWS borders so if you load up your track in any online site (see below) you'll notice where you might have gone astray.
There are also a few fire trails that NPWS don't want MTB riders on. Crazy I know - how can a bike damage a track that was built for a fire tanker? People have tried to document that here, but it's hard - NPWS don't even really make a decent public list of these.
For your other point - there are many sites around to share KML files, etc. on (GPSies, Everytrail, Garmin Connect, etc, etc). The trails DB here is also 'wiki like' meaning anyone can edit it. Hopefully when some of the new single track NPWS are working towards come along they will get listed here too.
Thanks Rob,
Not to worry, I don't take it personally at all.
I'm new to OZ and Sydney and am keen on MTB'ng.
Not sure of the rules and regs, so that's reason for asking.
I prefer to be a responsible rider and appreciate the feedback. Will spread the word about the single tracks (Great Shame though). I see there are some advocacy posts and I'll get involved to help out.
I saw a newspaper article in Manly Daily about the Garigal track. Can't wait.
BR
Sean