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We need your help! Oxford Falls and Red Hill Trails, Jumps, Gravity


Simon's picture

By Simon - Posted on 11 February 2012

Official Trails, Jumps and Gravity Tracks at Red Hill and Oxy

The collective group of people from NobMob, local clubs and the general public who have been working with NPWS (Bantry Bay, Garigal and State) and Councils over the last 4 years need everyones support.

We have recently published the OFRH Trail Care Proposal. To show support for making these trails official we need your membership.

This proposal was put together by some of our freeride crew and trail riders and to date has already opened the doors for meetings with the following owners and managers of Oxford Falls and Red Hill:

-NSW Department of Planning
-NSW Office of Environment and Heritage
-NSW Department of Primary Industries (Crown Lands)
-Warringah Council
-Metropolitan Aboriginal Land Council

TrailCare is open for everyone to join either as a supporter (free), however it would be greatly appreciated if you can become a full member. At $10/year you can contribute to the cause and also get shop discounts (membership cards are printed and being posted now). Note that paid membership has more weight when it comes to credibility with government and green groups.

Please see our site Trail Care and like our Facebook page. We are also IMBA affiliated.

So why TrailCare?

There comes a time when the benefits of being an incorporated non-profit group can open more doors during government liaison, eligibility for State and Fed funding grants and insurances than a community forum.

NobMob and Global Riders will still be the focal point for all that we currently do on these sites. However to help get stuff done on the ground Rob, myself, Hawkeye from NobMob and the other contributers to advocacy and all our previous written reports for Ministers etc have formed TrailCare. Other key members were also the organisers of previous volunteer maintenance days at Manly Dam under Terracare.

What else are we up to?

Ongoing - Representing IMBA, local riders and also providing feeback to NobMob in our role on the Northern Sydney MtB Stakeholder Advisory Committee

Coming up in early March - Site inspection with NPWS and rest of the Northern Sydney MtB Stakeholder Advisory Committee at Bantry Bay to investigate feasibility of new trails.

Coming up in early March - Manly Dam volunteer trail audit.

25 Jan 2012 - Introduced local mountain bike trail design and construction companies to Warringah Council staff for upcoming Manly Dam maintenance works

11th December 2011 - NPWS Pilot Trail Study - Members conducted site visit to provide feedback to NobMob, TrailCare, MWMtb and to also represent IMBA at Stringy Bark Ridge – Berowra Valley Regional Park. This was the first inspection with the rest of the Northern Sydney MtB Stakeholder Advisory Committee.

The site looks promising for XC loop. Some areas will be challenging to ride up and may require a hike-a-bike.

11th December 2011 - Began reviewing NPWS Review of Environmental Factors (REF) which is a detailed environmental and heritage study aimed at determining if new trails at Stringy Bark Ridge or Bantry Bay would present a significant impact.

hawkeye's picture

Great work, Simon, and an excellent document: http://www.trailcare.com.au/sites/default/files/...

This looks like it has picked up significant momentum over the last 5 days, with informal discussions scheduled to take place with MALC and the other bodies in the next few weeks to start taking a high level look at trail routing.

There has been a lot of work done by a small number of people to bring things to this point, and it would be no exaggeration to say that without Simon's many hundreds of hours invested on all our behalfs in polite, respectful but persistent diplomacy, document preparation, submission, follow-up, and working the system we would still be a very long way away. Also critical has been Hugh Flower's vision for this area and drive.

However, there is still a lot of work to do to bring this off. Right now one key thing we can do is to build up membership of Trail Care, to build on the clout we have managed to obtain so far. You can do this by at least joining the mailing list, although what builds cachet most with government bodies is paid-up membership, an investment of less than the cost of a typical takeaway lunch.

Not only is this about growing available XC singletrack trails, it provides a scarce opportunity to address the gnawing absence of a decent selection of legitimate gravity facilities in northern Sydney. Let's not waste it.

Jump on over to http://www.trailcare.com.au/ and see how you can help and what's in it for you. Smiling

muvro's picture

Yep, great initiative. Signed up a fair while ago, it'd be great to see more people get behind it.

jsmith's picture

All signed up.

thshs's picture

Come on Spokey, what are you waiting for?

Winco's picture

Done! $10 each is nothing. Come on folks, it took me 5 mins to register two of us as members and process payment online. Great initiative Simon. Spread the work to others. Forward email this topic link or the TrailCare link to as many people as youse can.

SpokeyDokey's picture

Yep, signed up also. Thanks guys.

craked's picture

done,$10 is like nothing,
good work all.

daveh's picture

Had signed up previously but didn't realise there was a paid member option! All done now.

Black Flash's picture

Small investment for a big dividend.
Thanks to all involved, many of us away from Nobmob really appreciate your commitment and efforts.

jht013's picture

$10 bucks for better trails, no brainer

CharlieB's picture

In and looking to help where i can.

mikethebike's picture

All paid up! Well done everyone involved. I'm really looking forward to the benefits this organization will provide.
I can't find the Facebook page though, is it up yet?

Isildur's picture

All joined up Smiling Good to hear it's all progressing well!

Simon's picture

We are also now looking into design principles for Dirt Jump design to resolve land owner liability.

This was kicked off with a productive meeting last week with the insurer of 137 NSW councils and some of our DJers. In early stages and will be working with them closely. Hopefully this will open the door for more dirt jumps and also more technical features on trails.

NPWS news, the Bantry Bay site visit was rained out and postponed. I will give update in a few weeks.

http://trailcare.com.au/membership

nrthrnben's picture

Tabletops is your answer

For Gravity trails one option is tabletops with slightly higher senders than the "top of the table", and long sloping landers

Some interesting reading

http://www.rotorburn.com/forums/showthread.php?2...

http://www.rotorburn.com/forums/showthread.php?2...

Simon's picture

Maybe okay on a trail.

However for dirt jumps I am told there needs to be a bit of a hollow to act as a bike catcher so if you need to ditch you don't land on the down face on top of your bike.

For advanced DJ lines we were also discussing a potential issue in that if they were tabled and all rollable people may just ride over the lip increasing maintenance as the lips would go from being defined to rounded.

We had been thinking that if the lander was back filled on a slope to prevent the vertical face (and impact hazard) but still leaving a drop after the take off this would stop people rolling over the whole line. Beginner lines however may be a complete table and would be a different story.

Anyway, just ideas at this stage. We are talking to lots of different people and thanks for the links and feedback. Will get some comments from everyone once we have drafted everything up.

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