Environmental damage to close part of Glenrock

Basically everything in glenrock that isn't on the official trail map will be closed.

Its all focused south of the lagoon. So Surfers Walk, Elvis Rock, Dudley area, etc will be officially closed. This is basically trail closures to reflect the Plan of Management.

I was on the consultative committee and there was one loop through the south that was sustainable and would have closed off the network nicely, but looking at the big picture, it is not a huge loss. I'll probably get shot down for saying that, but I think we have come out pretty well and the closures are minor (other than the loss of access to my favourite place in newcastle, Elvis Rock).

The easiest way to tell of specific trails to be closed is to look at our official trail map, if the trail isn't on the map, it will be closed by NPWS. This was always on the cards, the press release is just part of the education program for riders prior to and during closures.

No, the trails in the north are multiuser trails.

In future versions of the POM, if we can show the north has worked, then we have a case to increase access to the south. Really, its in our hands now to show that mtb's and Glenrock can coexist. We know they can, we just need to prove it to the NPWS.

Not a big fan of "the environmental damage" part.

Was always a problem with surfers nearly been bowled over by high speed runs down the hill, and the feeling of entitlement held by the burwood millionaires to "their" private paradise. This belief I base on the continued installation of traps and blocks for bikes done by amateurs - glass, sticks with nails in them buried in a creek crossing, various branches dragged across trails etc.

The article associates mountain biking with environmental damage which is a bit of a shame

I agree,maybe Tiffany could have chosen her words better!-as for the other part of your comment...well it would be sad if that was the case & Lenny is there a real strong chance that we will get some acsess to the southside??

Within Glenrock, the GNW goes on the Yeulabah walking trail. That is managed by NPWS.

Outside of Glenrock though, I'm not sure. We were actually having that discussion riding the GNW from Glenrock to Hillsborough yesterday. I think much of it is on crown lands and managed by the Department of Trade and Investment (crown lands). Other parts of the trail fall into State Forest.

So at all the trail entries down Scout Camp rd, top of bus stop, the short DH trails parallel to Easy way out etc, will there be big signs saying "don't go in here, fines apply" or will it just be education?

TBH, Bus Stop, Elvis Rock huge losses. Or maybe I am annoyed that everything is not available anymore. Anyway GTA, the work you have done is great, except that the rocks at the top of BJs seem to be getting higher

A lot of trails that aren't intended for walking (surfers walk) will be physically closed with machinery. At least that was the plan NPWS had. So a lot of stuff will be physically ripped up and allowed to rehabilitate. In the past when this has occurred, orange fencing has gone up with signs. There will be a period of education before fines kick in though. The rule in glenrock though, is if there is no sign indicating it is a cycling trail, we aren't supposed to be on it.

Are you talking about the step up into BJ's entrance? So its not just me that has found that a bit more challenging lately?

With the exception of two small areas, the gnw from the Fernleigh to Warners Bay is now on Lake Mac Council land. Preliminary design work for an upgrade should commence next financial year. Any actual work on the trail could be anywhere from a few months, to a decade away.

The barriers need to be removed entirely.

From Fernleigh track, Big Dipper and management trails.

Yes, after crossing the main creek crossing you could turn right and go up the management trail. The single trail on the sothern side of this management trail is unfortunately slated for closure (its one of my favorite trails), but a new one is to be opened on the northern side.

Incidentally, you can turn left on the management trail after the creek. Once you get to the second creek crossing however, under the POM maps you will have to turn right and go up the steep management trail that brings you to the Kahibah carpark.

The trailing running to the south of the fireroad is a good little trail (it seems easier than going up the fireroad?!), and it is in the section where cycling is permitted based on the POM map, why can't it be fixed up a bit instead of building a new trail? It is a bit eroded in spots, but fixing it up would be less damage than creating a whole new trail (i think?)

Also, instead of fixing up the trail from Snakes and Ladders down to the picnic table, can we have one of the old DH tracks down to the Yuelarbah management trail fixed up?

This makes a good little run of SNL - Seismick - pump action - turn left and go up to Gun club rd - then trail down to Yuelarbah - across the creek - that trail parallel to the fire road - grass tree - onto fernleigh track.

Indeed that would be a great loop.

Great stuff Lenny.

With my loop I like to ride down Garden Path, but it is certainly challenging after the berm section (very loose and steep, plenty of B-lines and erosion and only seems to be getting worse). The bottom half may be too steep to fix sustainably. Maybe another option is to ride the first half of Garden path and then go onto the easy way out fire road down to the Yuelarbah trail.

I guess alot of people currently ride Easy way out off GCR the wrong way to get down to the Yuelarbah, this would be a way to stop that.

It's the one that is just to the east of the easy way out fire road.
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