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Protest ride cancelled...
By me at least!
I am waiting for the Inspector to call me back so that I can officially withdraw our application for the protest.
I really feel that organising a mass ride around the dam will not be a benefit to us and will just irritate the residents.
The Inspector feels this would be ‘negative publicity’ and work against us in the long run.
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I have clicked the not attend button on the posted ride to show that I no longer intend to do the protest ride.
I beleive it to be a good idea if we all did the same. Local residnets would not be on side if 200 odd people on bikes turned up at once for no official reason other than a 'celebration'.
Agree, I'm out?
Yes, general consensus after the meeting last night was the same. Initially I thought perhaps everyone's hard work shouldn't be wasted and could be used to show how many interested MTB riders there are but the negatives outweigh the benefits and I've changed my mind. I think it's apparent to eveyone how strongly we feel about trail access, Council certainly got the message.
However - I will be waiting until I see something official before actually un-checking that box, call me paranoid.
...all go to Red Hill instead!
But was looking forward to seeing some old faces (old as in not seen for a while)
The missus even organised to drop me off and spend the day with her rellies
And she would pick me up later
Can we have a victory ride minus the massive crowd?
we still got entries available for the MTB Cruise in Canberra at Mt Stromlo which is on the 6th if you are keen to race instead of protest
youngish families(minority exception), and a great deal of them will be in on the ride, so it may not be that bad a thing to have lots of cars in king street once in a blue moon, most houses have off street parking anyway.
I think it might be a bit of a buzz for the community, and a show to council that these people that ride the dam are real, and not just emails.So many people where looking forward to this, just to get out and ride with a big group of mountain bikers, seriously how often does the chance come up socially
http://vimeo.com/5887730
The police don't want any trouble, and there wouldn't be any, as I'm sure by then the single track will be able to be ridden in its entirety and there will be no wakehurst issues.
Personally i would love to see hundreds of mountain bikers turn up for a peaceful manly dam ride/catchup/show of support.
There would be no leader, no protest or speeches, just everyone turn up at 8:30-9AM and ride the dam for fun and a show of support for the positive council decision
I'm keen to leave my name in the ride meeting for the time being.
This protest ride is cancelled.
For it to be legitimised in the first place people needed to put there names down on legal documents submitted with the relevant local authorities. This are real names, not log on names nor names of faceless websites. These people are responsible for that ride. These documents are now in the process of being withdrawn for obvious reasons.
By all means everyone should be out riding the dam as much as possible but all at the one time is not a smart idea.
Ben, you seem to be full of enthusiasm for our sport, always at the forefront of threads here and elsewhere encouraging people to do this or that, have you considered putting your name down for local politics? It would give you a legitimate outlet for you enthusiasm and I reckon you would be assured of a large number of votes
i'll check tickets tonight ...
cheers
b.
I agree with you, i wasn't saying we should protest, just ride united for fun . I realize the protest is not needed if we get confirmation of access. Please re-read my comments
Every sport does it, its not that bad, its a great thing for the community to ride/walk/run/associate together. If the problem is parking, then encourage locals to ride to the dam, and cars to park as far away as possible, e.g nearby skate park, socerfields parking.
Not me sorry, got a lovely wife, do a fair bit of volunteer work, and run a company, and yes in order of priority
so no time for politics for me. With due respect to politicians, its not at all for me. My efforts on here are purely for the love of mountain biking and getting out into the bush.
"Not me sorry, got a lovely wife, do a fair bit of volunteer work, and run a company, and yes in order of priority"
and here I was thinking you were an over enthusiastic 16yr old.
I can read Ben but sadly I think you are missing the point. Whether you and your 200 odd mates think you are out there protesting or just riding "united for fun" is irrelevant. Manly Dam is not Nobmobs personal MTB Park to do as you wish when you wish. The inconvenience to general public, to other park users and to the locals who live there would not be considered "fun".
Regardless of how you feel, the perception from the general public would not be all roses, nor would the relevant authorities fell all warm and fuzzy with your "fun". I'm sure when Rob returns the ride meeting will be altered to show the status as cancelled as he has enough respect for those that we all have to deal with, and for the efforts of those that are working towards a better future for our sport.
Your earlier comments convey a fair degree of authority on the demographic make up of the region, I'm assuming you've done a door knock to canvass the sentiments of those that live on the surrounding streets? At the very least you would have spoken to the rangers or the people that have actually submitted the relevant paperwork for a ride of that size to proceed? Yes, maybe no.
Your enthusiasm is admirable but I really think you need to just listen to the likes of AR Junkie and slow down a little. Sometimes the elephant is better being gently led to where you want it to go rather than standing behind it, shoving it up the rear with a sharp rod
On the back of Monday night's successful mountain bike forum at the Tramshed (Friends of N Lagoon Catchment) and the Manly Dam track outcome at council, why not take the time now to organise an awareness ride, on-road, with high visibility and police assistance (as I understand was underway for 6 March anyway)? Maybe from Manly Wharf to Manly Dam or Dee Why to Manly Dam, if you want to be more Warringah-focused - or from both directions if that works? There could be a mini-eco-fest at the Dam section 1 and a bbq for cyclist and environmentalist mingling at the end of the ride? I can move at the next meeting that council support it, if you want council involvement.
I went to the Friends of Warringah meeting last night, where mountain biking was on the agenda and members were generally happy about Monday night's informal but conciliatory talks. Positive ways to progress the present constructive high spirits of both sides were discussed. There seems to be FOW in-principle support of lobbying now for a workable solution, which is great.
Now, I know the Belrose tip (WSN) site is not everyone on this forum's perfect ride, but my argument on that is that SOME Manly Dam riders, eg. beginners and family groups and probably Belrose locals who would save a drive to the Dam, would happily mix up their ride locations between MD and Belrose, at least taking some pressure off the Dam in the process.
So an awareness ride could have the partial purpose of lobbying for fast-tracking WSN (state govt: seems willing, but too slow), which as far as I know is supported by most councillors - and more importantly, very much supported by Belrose residents.
Just a thought from the sidelines. Maybe I should have started a new forum for this??? :/ Not sure how to do that.
I've cancelled the ride meeting as suggested.
Virginia, try navigating to: http://nobmob.com/forum
select a forum (e.g. http://nobmob.com/forum/trailadvocacy)
Then there should be a link at the top, 'post new forum topic'
Kitt, please update your personal details and personal jibes are counted as trolling / baiting.
I agree that, by design, a protest ride will cause inconvenience so that it gains attention and this is obviously not required nor desirable given the outcome.
Having said that, I think some sort of "get down to the dam" shindig would be great. Whether to ride, swim, meet councillors/mayor, NobMobers and other manly Dam users is irrelevant, just to enjoy what we have in a cordial and casual environment. It would enable different groups to meet each other so that we can build on the already decent relationship that we seem to have so that we can move forward with the PoM.
Ahh, *hugs*. Err.....
If not a ride it should be a meet up at the BBQ area for sure. Councillors, Nobmobbers, MWMTB, walkers, everyone should be involved.
Will be a great chance to build some solid foundations.
I am newly returned to mtb after years and years of other sports (I grew up in North Balgowlah so cut my teeth on unrestricted Manly Dam trails way back when we were debating banning mtbs or dinosaurs from the trails). I generally head out for rides by myself so it would be great to meet a few other people.
Protest is out and not at all needed, but something more low key would be nice to take give something to all those that organized time in their schedules to clear that date for the dam, would be great for all to get together for a ride and Barby after or similar. Just a thought.