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Lapierre and RockShox launch auto-adjust suspension


hawkeye's picture

By hawkeye - Posted on 27 June 2012

Apparently senses fork movements and combines that with speedo and cadence inputs to adjust shock damping

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/lapierre-a...

StevieG's picture

Seems like a clever system but is this not similar to the Specialized Brain system that they fit to the Epic and Stumpy with the exception that all the "thinking" goes on at the rear wheel, not the front?

The specialized system seems a bit more elegant/less wire/bits to go wrong but maybe I'm not comparing apples with apples.


http://youtu.be/ns76kFy14ZM

LadyToast's picture

It won't be long before each corner has Its own suspensIon settIngs based on gps coords, just lIke motogp Smiling

Discodan's picture

The principle seems similar to the Brain, the key difference being the Brain is reactive (i.e. it adjusts the rear suspension in response to the bump) whereas this system is proactive in that it knows about the bumb before it gets to the back wheel. I wonder how different the outcome really is

Pete B's picture

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Rockshox, Lapierre and Ghost have released a computer controlled rear shock. Not simply an electronic lockout function like we have seen recently from Fox, this system works with accelerometers in the bike's fork and stem plus sensors in the crank. These sensors tell the rear shock how to behave. From what we can gather at this early stage, in under 0.01 seconds the rear shock can motion from locked out to completely open depending if you are pedalling, coasting or whatever the terrain happens to be.

Hans's picture

The new Rockshox system also has a sensor to measure the amount of sphincter tightening as you descend the gnarly downhill bits, and adjusts the shock and brake pressure accordingly. Eye-wink

Magnum9's picture

Judging from the x-ray you need a vagina for it to work

Pete B's picture

And be wearing zipped lycra.

2012TranceX1's picture

actually unzipped licra, the zippers down i mean

TrekWrekka's picture

Sphincter Sensor= Gold Smiling

pikey's picture

He does........ Eye-wink

Cotic Tony's picture

Hmm. Interesting but seen as how hardly anyone here seems that competent fixing the normal shocks I cant help but being sceptical on it's long term reliability.
I've also never liked any of the so called "Intelligent" suspension systems that I've tried so far as they tend to feel choppy & inconsistent so maybe this one has merit.

I'd imagine that through the sensors this one will sense climbing or acceleration & tighten up accordingly then revert back to open or preset once moving at speed or without load. Perhaps it could also be remapped by the user?
Are they using magnetic fluid in the dampers yet, I know Cannondale or Pro flex tried it many years ago but dropped it.

I wonder if the same rich but naive rider type that buys a top end bike but never even sets his/her shocks will buy into this technology?

Ba humbug. T

hawkeye's picture

If nothing else, it will be guaranteed to make your wallet lighter Eye-wink

Not a fan of electronic gizmos on bikes... the circuitry components wear out in a few years and then you're stuck at whatever setting it was on at the time of failure. Good luck getting spares for old electonics stuff, given how fast the market moves.

Anyone remember the Cannondale Lefty ELO?

I quite like the Specialized Brain approach, though... simple and elegant

dr00's picture

would be interested to see how well this works in reality. how often does your front wheel hit things your back wheel hits? i reckon most of the hard hits my back wheel takes i would have hopped my front wheel over. when i land a drop off i know i rarely land front wheel first. what the front wheel experiences would seem almost unrelated to what the back wheel would have to deal with.

mothy's picture

I was wondering what the feedback on this topic/tech would be ... There were always gonna be haters, that was obvious. And, this isn't an endorsement of said product - but it did get me wondering .... Do you run cable or hydro disc brakes? Tubless wheelsets? Dropper post? Carbon (anything)? Clip-ins? Air Sprung suspension? DW or Horst link? Leftys?

All these things IMO have changed not only the bikes we ride, but the way we ride them too... Better materials, more travel, better brakes etc. may not make you a better/faster rider...... but: will you go back to riding hardtails w/ ridgid forks, cantilever brakes and stackhats?

Less cables would be a starter for the new system. Bluetooth sensors for cranks and forks, powered from the "piezo-electric" charger in the BB might be another... Maybe next year

CharlieB's picture

How would it deal with a big flat landing (from a smooth take-off). Front end says nothing going on - right up to the point of impact....

Zoom's picture

CharlieB you'd have accelerometers mounted on the frame and if the accelerometer detected that you were falling (Negative G force) then the software would set the shock absorber to get ready for a falling type impact (soft but with rebound damping).

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