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Commuter/secondary light like a Knog but more robust?


Rob's picture

By Rob - Posted on 07 September 2014

Most 24 hour races stipulate we should all have 'secondary' light for when our main wizz-bang 'like the sun' set fails. Plus, when out night riding it's always handy to have a red tail light. Such small lights are also pretty handy on your commute or to be seen on the road too.

I've been using a set of Knog Blinder 4 like this for a while (maybe 18 months). Up until recently I would have said they were great and highly recommended, but in the course of the last few weeks one has decided it doesn't want to re-charge any more and the strap on the other broke. Game over.

First off - am I just unlucky or have others found Knog lights a little fragile? Should I just replace them and be done (I notice they are $35 an end at T7 right now)?

Second - what's are the replacement options anyhow? I've been an admirer of anything Lezyne for a while & their Zecto lights look similar. A tiny bit heavier and not quite as sleek as the Knog, but if they don't crap themselves after a year or so then can live with that. I can find these for around 70 bucks for the set on CRC.

Does anyone know of any other 'to be seen' lights that are available though? USB rechargeable is a must (I just don't want another power brick).

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hawkeye's picture

I find them to be very stylish, but highly variable in quality. Much like Crank Bros.

The rear is supposed to give me 50 hours run time on flashing mode.

It is more like 5. And was like that right out of the packaging. The white front is better.

I have an older pair of rear lights that are powered by AA's that I've had for a few years and use for 24hr racing that work well. However, they were advertised as being waterproof. They are definitely not that.

They've just brought out an action cam light that puts out 400 lumens. My GoPro Hero3 Black just *starts* to get usable night footage from my MTS light at full power 2700 lumens. I don't understand what they're thinking with that product.

Given the Lezyne stuff I've bought so far works very well, I'd be inclined to give that a go. I see quite a lot of their lights on the roadies I chase over the harbour bridge, so they seem popular.

GAZZA's picture

Not USB but the batteries last ages on flashing mode which is the best " be seen " mode right ?
I've used them back and front for the last few years and will buy them again if they ever fail, which I can't see them doing soon.

Scratchy's picture

I've had two friends with dodgy buttons on the Lezyne. Saying that they seem to revise there design every year so it might have changed. My experience with other Lezyne products puts them in the same catagory a Knog/ Crank Bros (nice design, variable quality).
My wife has been commuting all year on this tiny Magicshine MJ-890
http://ibikedaily.com/magicshine-mj-890-usb-light/

Maybe a bit more than what you are looking at but it can be had for $60. Really nice spill on the light (dimpled lens) makes it fine for pitch black commutes. One thing I don't like though is you can't swivel the light easily like some other I have which can be a bit of a pain on sweeping handlebars. Very simply operation only three modes and the button serves as a battery indicator going from Green to Blue (60%) to Red (30%).

She's been a happy commuter all winter.

I've got these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/moon-gem-20-led-recharge...
OK for a to be seen light, it's tiny, they have 4 modes from memory and one of there flashing is that really annoying rapid flash but it does throw enough light for it almost to be a constant beam to ride on but you can't really ride full clip in the pitch black. The head is easy to swivel, bloody light, but the button is really hard to turn on (but it won't turn on in your backpack). Much less light than the Magicshine but only $25.

Oh heaps of interesting reviews here:
http://road.cc/content/review/106655-magicshine-...

Rob's picture

That Moon doesn't sound very bright, and as you say, the Magicshine is a little more.

If we're looking on Wiggle, found these:

http://www.wiggle.com/lifeline-usb-led-double-be...

According to Cyclingtips* Lifeline is Wiggle's own brand. Hmmmm... decisions, decisions.

* http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/06/ctech-june-pro...

tomness's picture

I was looking at a new front commuter style bar light and last friday got a light and motion urban 700. I have yet to give it a actual test run but playing around with it at home it seems a solid unit. USB rechargable, good output, small and it looks like the strap may actually last. I got mine from pushys for a pretty reasonable price.

I have had 3 knogs and all the straps have broken. The front blinder was useless as anything but a be seen light. I like the rear blinder though and I can still actually attach it, ghetto style, using a o ring or a elastic band. Knog did replace the first rear blinder that broke. That one broke its strap too. Both lights still work though, aside from the strap.

Rob's picture

These look kindof interesting... like the Lezyne Femto but claimed to be twice as bright and USB chargable (The Femto take 2 x CR2032):


http://youtu.be/0kuxPq3xSrQ

They are all over Ebay, here's the manufacturer's link:

http://www.dosun.us/portablelight/index_light.html

Incidentally the Knog Blinder 4 claim 80/44lm against these 40/15lm.

Oh, look at that... the Wiggle Lifeline single beam look to be a re-badged/housed version of this:

http://www.wiggle.com.au/lifeline-usb-led-single...

The double version looks to be just two of these glued together.

dougm111's picture

Unfortunately, I too have had a mixedexperience with Knogs. I chose them for their cool design concepts, compactness, and Aussie made.

I first bought a Blinder 1 Cross rear light, mainly to use on the back of my helmet as an additional light for commuting. It seemed to work really well, although the strap was a bit unwilling to remain attached, but eventually it hung in there.

I then bought a Blinder Road Rear light. Awesome light, really powerful, light and streamlined. Perfect for my roadie. Had several comments from other riders about how bright it is. Job done! No issues with this one, highly recommended.

I then liked the look and features of the Blinder Road 3 front light so I bought one.

I then bought a new helmet, the original Blinder 1 Cross I had did not fit the new helmet, so I bought a Knog Silicon for the helmet and transferred the Blinder 1 over to the MTB seat post as a rear light. After just 2 rides on the MTB, I found the light barely hanging on. The strap had completely split and broken. It's not replaceable on this model, so I returned it to Pushy's and Knog exchanged it, no questions asked. The Silicon Knog is great though.

So, back to my experience with Knog Road 3 Front light I use on my roadie. It mounts to the front of the handlebars, rather than on top which I actually quite liked as it was a nice streamlined setup, but the light fowls with the brake/gear cable which route under the grip tape so the light actually cant be angled down far enough to light the road ahead properly. Still good for "being seen" though, so I stuck to it. It comes with two different length replaceable straps. The longer strap was recommended for my size bars, but when I tried it, I felt it was too loose, so I used the shorter strap which was much more secure and did not seem to be overextended. After about 5 days of commuting to work (approx. 20km each way) I noticed the strap had broken where it connects to the body of the light. I took this on the chin as my fault as I knew the short strap wasn't recommended for my bars. So I tried the longer strap. First ride into work was OK, but was still annoyed at the fact I couldn't angle the light properly due to interference from the brake cable. So I started looking at alternatives that day. I was going to buy the Knog Blinder Arc 5.5 when I came across the Light & Motion Urban 700. It was on special, too good a deal to pass up and with the issues I had with Knog, I was happy to try something else, so I ordered that.

That night (last night actually) on the way home, the strap decided to come undone on its own going coming down a fairly fast section of road. The light came off and smashed onto the road. No doubt it was due to an "irregularity" in the road, but no worse than the hundreds I'd hit previously that day. Lucky for me it was a quiet back street of Mosman, typical council patch work quilt road, but nothing it shouldn't be able to handle and this was the strap recommended for my size bars remember. The strap did not break, the clamp just came undone, I presume from a lack of tension using the longer (recommended) strap. Yes the light was damaged/scratched but credit where credit is due, it hit the road hard and didn't break and was still working perfectly. I put it back on, but then about a kay later going down Parriwi Rd it came off again!!! Parriwi is not that bad! Lucky I caught it this time, but it wont be going back on the roadie. Might use it as a helmet light on a night MTB ride, or as a emergency spare, but that will be about it.

So, my experience with Knog has been mixed to say the least. Awesome features, work really well, especially considering their compact size. Great cool designs but in practice they seem to have issues, specifically with the strap and securing clamp they use. It seems to be a common issue. Great design concepts, but still need refinement. More real world testing maybe??? I haven't spoken to Knog about it yet, need to take some photos of it and send them a report and see what they say.

Barnsy's picture

I've had some mixed results with the Kong lights. Two of them full of water for a supposedly waterproof light, but the replacements I've received have been going strong with no problems.
If you want to try something different than give this mob a try. Based in Melbourne.
http://www.mtbrevolution.com/index.php?route=com...
I've got a set of their "big lights" for night/ 24 hour racing and they are simply brilliant. Good enough as I'm about to order a second set for my son to race with. Their range is quite good with some smaller USB commuter lights available.
Overnight delivery too.
Btw. I'm not sponsored or have any association with the company. Just found a good product.

twotommos's picture

http://www.pushys.com.au/nite-rider-lightning-bu...

Check these out....good price....don't know anyone who has one, but at this price you could get two.

Barnsy's picture

I ordered another set of lights for racing from this mob, http://www.mtbrevolution.com/index.php?route=com....
Ordered Monday 9am, courier turned up Tuesday 9am. Melbourne to Blue mts NSW.
I was really impressed with their 24hour race set, so thought I would try one of the budget rear commuter lights.
Model, Geinea III, USB rechargeable, up to 9 hours run time, alloy case with a rubber strap to secure around your seatpost. All for 20 odd bucks.
It'll be interesting to see how it holds up after a few wet and muddy rides.

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