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Her comments on aggressive behaviour are way out of line. She has no evidence to support this damaging claim and should be ashamed. Every time I encounter walkers I always slow down and show respect. She forgets to mention that many walkers actually walk around the sections of Manly Dam that are strictly for cyclists only. Do we run to the local MP and complain??
As for 540 signatures that may at first sound like strong support from the community to block a bike trail but I'd like to see what suburbs the signatures came from and it's worth considering that 540 signatures in a large metropolitan area is not all that many. Maybe we should counter her petition with signatures of those in support of bike trails?
Also, she really needs to do her homework on the effects that cycling has on bush land. Wake Hurst Parkway poses much more danger to native wildlife. Also, I'd put a wager on it that walking in the bush causes just as much disturbance as MTBing. Which I don't have any evidence or research to support my claim but I reckon it's next to nothing as long as everyone respects the land and doesn't litter or stray from the trails.
Then there' s the increasing obesity issue that unless facilities like these are available will only worsen. Free health and recreation services are hard to come by these days so kids who don't have rich parents are often disadvantaged.
I'm miffed about this
Spewing, my computer showed an error and wouldn't let me add the following comment;
It is dissapointing to see The Manly Daily dedicating so much space to highlighting this woman. I appreciate a need for jounalists to provide both sides of any topic, but Ms Loughnane is pushing her own personal agenda here on a topic that she shows no real informed knowlegde of at all.
This article fails to mention that she has taken well over 6 months to collect the signatures on her petition, and has done so by spending times in shopping centres on weekends, spreading her misinformation to the pubilc.
Her opinion that "bike tracks will damage bushland in the national park and was insensitive to the area’s rich Aboriginal heritage" is simply that, her opinion - it is not fact.
The facts are that the NPWS are conducting environmental assessments, and that properly constructed tracks are proven to be enviormentally sustianable. The whole point is to build such tracks, which is direct contradiction to Ms Loughnane's personal opinion.
As a local resident living 100 metres from the Manly Dam tracks ( Ms Loughnane is from Forsestville), who 100% supports mountain biking in Garrigal National Park, I find the very headline of this article both offensive and sensational.
If the form fails, send to [email protected].
Here's what I sent:
Thanks he with the eye of a hawk, already emailed the editor this morning.
Very well put togther response by yourself there too.
The author of the manlydaily piece can be emailed here
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KEEP IT CIVIL GUYS...
Guys, has there ever been a single bike/walker accident on Manly Dam track to the best of our knowledge?
There was a Near Miss recorded when a cyclist got out of shape and came off near some volunteer bush regen folks a couple of years ago.
That's it, one "incident" only so far as I'm aware and nothing else for over 15 years.
I asgree that it's imperative to stick to the issues and keep it civil. The journos don't have a dog in the fight and we MUST retain the moral high ground.
In the area she would have canvassed there are a number of aged residential care facilities where it would be easy to pick up signatures very rapidly. My experience (somewhat limited I would agree while looking for a lost dog and talking to said residents to see if they had seen him) was that the residents main concern was the noise reverberating around the valley (they are thinking motor bikes).
Unfortunately this is a clear indication of the lack of information establishing their concerns. I am sure that the signature collector would not have gone to the effort of disabusing this concern.
It's not hard to get signatures when you use a flyer like this one that was used here in the lower Blue Mountains.
http://bmorc.com/node/17785
Come on... after 6 months attending every event in the area, walking the streets and setting up stall at Forestville shops Rosemary only has 500 signatures.
I know there's a couple of Forestville / Bantry Bay locals here! How about we band together, organise a counter survey, and get 5000 signatures in support. Maybe we can even get Tony Abbot, a local Forestville resident, to sign
I'm willing to co-ordinate if 2 or 3 others show interest.
A counter-petition wll take too long.
Send your emails to Brad Hazzard, Planning Minister [email protected], as he is the minister with approval authority.
Keep it polite and retain the high moral ground. We support the evidence based due-diligence process the NPWS is following.
More info on the BS this woman is peddling here: http://www.trailcare.com.au/files/pdf/oxo_penins...
List of issues to hit here:
http://nobmob.com/node/35635#comment-112790